Thursday, July 30, 2009

I'll be there

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Saturday 1st of August is a National Day of Action for Same-Sex marriage. As long as I can shake this god-awful sinus/virus thing, I'll be attending the Melbourne Rally at Fed Square, and I encourage everyone else - regardless of your sexuality - to attend.

This isn't just a "Gay Issue" - it's an issue for everyone who believes in Equality. This is an opportunity to make a stand. Be heard. The Government can only ignore this issue as long as we let them.

10 comments:

Bruce said...

Not to detract from your post, but I think it's a good sign that the phrase "regardless of your sexuality", seems so obvious as to be a bit silly.

Unfortunately, I'll be at a funeral which will prevent me from getting to the Adelaide festivities. I'll try and blog something about it.

Keri said...

It seems silly, but so does the fact we still haven't overturned these laws, so it bears repeating.

iainhall said...

Keri
This is a resistance is futile situation and you will achieve absolutely nothing by attending this event.

Jeremy said...

I'm sure you and your minority anti-equality believers would love that to be the case, Iain.

But you're on the losing side of history. Today might well just be one further step towards equality, but we'll get there eventually.

Keri said...

Iain - I made my voice heard. That was what I set out to do and that was what I did. I achieved just that.

You may not think raising your voice when the civil rights of others are being infringed is important; I do.

iainhall said...

Keri
This country is doing pretty well when it comes to our civil rights.
I suspect that you and your fellow lefties are suffering a sort of generational envy when it comes to fighting for societal change. the big issues of racial equality, universal suffrage and the right to personal autonomy have been won by people of may generation and older and now there are not the substantive matters left to fight for, So what is left? You may think that Gay marriage is something to storm the barricades over but most people are like me happy to see the practical needs of homosexual couples met by the extension of the Tasmanian relationship register model to other jurisdictions within Australia. That is what has been decided at the ALP Conference. Not being able to characterise homosexual relationships as a "marriage" is far less important than that.

Keri said...

"This country is doing pretty well when it comes to our civil rights"

Pretty well isn't good enough, Iain. As one of the signs said at the rally, we're either equal or we aren't.

"but most people are like me happy to see the practical needs of homosexual couples met by the extension of the Tasmanian relationship register model to other jurisdictions within Australia. That is what has been decided at the ALP Conference. Not being able to characterise homosexual relationships as a "marriage" is far less important than that"

Iain, 60% - demonstrably "most" people - disagree with you and want to see the law changed.

I don't intend to storm anything. I don't even particularly like rallies, but I WILL make exceptions where someones rights are being infringed. As for the "near enough is good enough" approach you seem to think is okay, it isn't. A majority of Australians agree that it isn't good enough, and the ALP is ignoring them. The government is supposed to act FOR the people, not against their wishes.

Your last, tiny crumb of an argument - that you think most people agree with you - has been swept away. You are not in the majority. You never will be again, and people will one day look back on attitudes such as yours with disbelief.

Some of us already do.

iainhall said...

Keri
We live in a democracy,and If the question was put to a referendum I would respect the result.
Would you?
The reason I ask is that I think that rather like the result in California I expect that the result would not favour your position at all. Remember that the survey that you keep citing was of only 1000 people and this country has 21 million.

Keri said...

"We live in a democracy,and If the question was put to a referendum I would respect the result.

Would you?"


No, I wouldn't. There are two seperate issues here:

1. This is an infringement of the civil rights of 10% of the population, regardless of the feelings of the other 90%. Was segregation okay whilst the majority of people believed it was? No. We do not legislate discrimination on the basis of consensus.

2. The last - and only logical - argument left to people like yourselves was that it was a majority belief that same-sex couples shouldn't have access to marriage. That has now been taken away. You have nothing left but admitting that your view is formed by prejudice and distaste.

As for citing Prop 8 as evidence that people in this country would not agree with a change to law, I could cite the countries that HAVE changed that law as a result of consensus - some of which are much closer to our own in terms of legal system and secularity. You have to remember that much of the objection to same-sex marraige in America is due to religious consideration - something that by-and-large would not apply to this country.

Keri said...

You're a fucking liar, Jimbo.

First, you have no proof that any information was passed on. I've got an e-mail account that I've literally never used - never sent an e-mail from, never signed up to anything with and it STILL got spam.

Secondly, even if it WAS someone from Grods (Which it wasn't), you have absolutely no proof it was Jeremy.

Until you do, fuck off. Oh, and comment moderation is being turned on, so good luck spamming my posts, wanker.